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According to CNN's latest poll (October 14-16, ±3%), Americans support each of the major policy proposals in President Obama's jobs bill by a wide margin:

CNN Jobs Poll
Yet despite that overwhelming support, here's how Republican senators voted when the jobs bill came to the Senate floor last week:
Senate Republican Vote
Republicans have picked their side, and it's the wrong one.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 06:50 AM PDT.

Also republished by ClassWarfare Newsletter: WallStreet VS Working Class Global Occupy movement and Daily Kos.

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  •  MSM's response: It's a good news for Romney (7+ / 0-)

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 06:51:13 AM PDT

  •  Unfortunately, come election time (11+ / 0-)

    all the ads will say how Democrats failed to create jobs and enough people will forget how that came about that it might work.  That is the Republican playbook and it hasn't failed them yet.

    Omar: When you been doin it as long as I have, you do the thing on your name. OWS: Due to budget cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

    by ten5v1lt4 on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 06:55:29 AM PDT

  •  Maybe they need to realize (13+ / 0-)

    "Just who their constituents are." Or maybe they do. Just goes to show that they only ever care about what voters want when they can control what voters want. The fact that support for these policies clearly transcends party lines should scare the bejeezus out of them.

    Many Americans fear that universal health care would destroy their way of life. In that it would get them the anti-psychotic meds they need, I agree.

    by ThothXXI on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:03:34 AM PDT

  •  Really, what do the people do? (8+ / 0-)

    I remember a long time when Bush I said that as far as he was concerned, Congress didn't need to pass a single law, the status quo was just fine. The Republicans are just trying to run out the clock until they think they can get in with majorities which they are willing to get by any means necessary, especially since Democrats didn't even attempt to address election reforms when they had the chance.

    The Democrats seem to be for bi-partisan, ineffective half measures and the Republicans are for no measures, until they can get enough people in to pass laws to let industry and corporations use us as raw materials to be processed and extracted of our dollars.

    Also, the Republicans have effectively shut down large portions of the government since they will not confirm appointments.

    When the entire government is dysfunctional what are the citizens to do?

    I ask this question in all sincerity. Do we just watch the whole thing swirl down the tubes because of the pervasive corruption?

  •  People wouldn't support the payroll tax (5+ / 0-)

    holiday, if they realized the threat is poses to SS.  This policy should not be lumped in with these otherwise important and positive measures.  

    Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

    by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:16:09 AM PDT

    •  I don't know if it threatens SS, but... (0+ / 0-)

      ...I'm generally opposed to any tax cut (or extension of a tax cut) at this time.

      I'm not saying poor/working class shouldn't get a break, but including ANY more cuts when there's an all-out frenzy of slashing spending makes for very poor optics IMHO; it feeds into the "class war" meme and confuses people who don't understand who this particular cut impacts.

      •  I'm not opposed to any tax cuts (0+ / 0-)

        I am opposed to simply reducing taxes.  The progressive position is that taxes need to be made more progressive (and thereby raise more revenue to pay for things we need), not that taxes generally are a burden.  The latter reinforces conservative frames about government.

        Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

        by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:10:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Well done, Jed. (11+ / 0-)

    More jobs equal less debt, even our kids can understand that.

    by TomP on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:17:56 AM PDT

  •  Not raising taxes on the wealthy is costly (11+ / 0-)

    Besides being popular, reversing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans would save the U.S Treasury literally trillions over the next decade-- not to mention accomplish the super committee's deficit reduction goal. See the running total of the cost of Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 5 percent and 1 percent:

    -Mattea Kramer, National Priorities Project

    •  Reversing the Bush tax cuts is not enough (2+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, Laconic Lib

      Billionaires have had it their way for far too long.
      We are still way too far from the Eisenhower marginal rates on the very wealthy.  It will be a big mistake to throw away this "tax the rich" fervor by just reversing the latest round of giveaways to the rich.

      I'm a fucking retard.

      by Helpless on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:52:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Woops. You forgot some Dems voted (7+ / 0-)

    against Obama's jobs bill. Why not mention them?

    I work with B2B PAC, and all views and opinions in this account are my own.

    by slinkerwink on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:39:35 AM PDT

    •  Do you understand the difference between (3+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, createpeace, askew

      "some" and "all"?

      Do you understand cloture, filibuster, and how votes on those work?

      Or, like many here, do you just come to a Democrat blog to bash Democrats?

      Hint for the slow: Democrats voted in favor of the bill in higher proportions than the polls in this diary.  Much higher.

      •  Obviously everyone does (2+ / 0-)
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        katiec, slinkerwink

        understand these things.  

        But how is pointing out a relevant fact "bashing Democrats"? I thought we were the reality based community.  Indeed, doesn't your comment confuse all with some? The comment you attack is not a criticism of Democrats generally.

        Because conservative Democrats voted against this, simply voting for Democrats will not solve the problem. That is why this fact is relevant. All Republicans are part of the problem, but some Democrats are as well.

        Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

        by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:02:29 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  They have been voting (1+ / 0-)
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      with the republicans on all the bills anyway, so why don't they just put the R after their names?

      Steady State Economic Proponent.

      by KatGirl on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:59:06 AM PDT

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  •  Some public (4+ / 0-)

    We can only hope the people sampled in this poll are those who come out to vote.  I think it's smart to break the bill up in small pieces, however, because it takes away the political cover that the bill was just too big.  A typical republican response is "well, there were parts that I could agree with, but I could not go along with the whole thing."

  •  Those who vote opposed to this jobs bill are (2+ / 0-)
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    Thomasina, askew

    the same numbers who believe Obama is a Muslim dictator and the media is liberal.  In other words, the fringe maniacs and the easily duped Druggie Rush and Fake News followers.  Wake up, chumps!  This bill is for YOU.  Rush and Fake are for the billionaires and millionaires who couldn't care less if y'all starved to death, as long as you didn't do it in front of them.

    Pass the bill, Congress, or pay a nice big price come November 2012.

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:47:24 AM PDT

  •  Republicans picked their side long ago (2+ / 0-)
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    Forward is D not R, ferg
    Republicans have picked their side, and it's the wrong one.

    Obama/Democrats have finally found a way to make it clear to the public.  Amazing that it took so long.

    I'm a fucking retard.

    by Helpless on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:47:57 AM PDT

  •  This, in a nutshell, is the nature of the problem. (0+ / 0-)

    What the people want is not what the people get. 75 per cent may want higher taxes on the rich. But they will not get that under the current system. Most folks in Washington simply DO NOT CARE what the people want. They only want  money and re-election and the power that both will bring them.

  •  Here is how Jon Tester justified his vote (1+ / 0-)
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    JC from IA

    against Obama's jobs bill -- my mom got this from him in her email in response to her angry letter to him (it did nothing to assuage her anger):

    Why I voted against the President's Jobs Bill

    This week, I cast a vote in the Senate that was praised by some and criticized by others. I voted against the American Jobs Act after considerable discussion, research and listening to many folks. I stand by my vote, and I want to share my reasons directly with you.

    First, we can't forget our own history. A few generations ago this nation made an incredible investment in infrastructure, and the jobs it created helped lead us out of the Great Depression. President Roosevelt's vision was to create a stronger and more productive America using the brains and brawn of American workers.

    Roosevelt's example should guide our nation now as we rebuild from this recession.

    We built our way out of the Great Depression with an unprecedented investment in physical infrastructure. We built highways and bridges and parks and factories. We connected the nation with industry. We electrified rural farms and ranches. In Montana we built lodges and trails that help people the world over to enjoy Glacier National Park and Montana's natural beauty; we built airports; we created water and irrigation systems.

    We knew that investing in infrastructure, education and research-and-development are powerful, long-term job creators. We were right.

    Today we know that America's bridges, roads, electrical grids, national parks, and schools are in need of repair to carry our nation and our economy into the future. We also know that we have educated and able people ready to get the work done.

    My vote against the President's jobs proposal came after considering our own history and our path to the future.

    The American Jobs Act invested far too little in actual job creation. In fact, only 20 percent of the $447 billion was dedicated to physical infrastructure, and only about half of that money would have been available right away.

    Over $250 billion of the bill was devoted to temporary tax gimmicks that don't create jobs. History shows us that too.

    Of course, there are provisions I supported. I support the surtax on millionaires. I feel strongly that this nation's wealthiest should pay their fair share in taxes.

    But we should use the revenue from a new surtax on millionaires to pay for things that build our economy, like roads, bridges, transmission lines, rural broadband, and water projects. The President's bill would have used this revenue to pay for expensive, temporary tax gimmicks that won't create jobs in the long-term. I have no doubt we will put that revenue to much better use in the near future.

    In the weeks ahead I will be working with colleagues on both sides of the aisle make sure that we put Americans back to work in the short-term, while making also jobs investment in the long term. I'll work on proposals for the entire nation and specific to Montana to address our infrastructure needs, to ensure continued research and development to carry our economy forward, and to continue educating and training the children who are the future.

    All of this can and must be done in a way that addresses one of the underlying problems hurting our economy: our growing deficit and the uncertainty it creates. To get there, we need a wholesale reform of our tax code to make sure wealthy Americans and big corporations pay their fair share, and to make taxes more fair for working families. And we need to ensure that critical initiatives like Social Security and Medicare are built to last, so they can benefit our kids and grandkids.

    Doing nothing will not create jobs. Not paying for infrastructure now will compromise our future. I am committed to finding the balance for today's workers and for tomorrow's children.

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:50:38 AM PDT

  •  Public opion does NOT MATTER to this (1+ / 0-)
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    session of Congress, and has not from the beginning.  Only dogma matters.

  •  Gee, everyone is (0+ / 0-)

    picking on the republicans. That's so sad. {snicker}
    We should be saluting them for all marching in lock step to the same drummer.

    That way, they don't have to think of anything for themselves, they just have to do what they are told by their masters.

    Steady State Economic Proponent.

    by KatGirl on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:53:47 AM PDT

  •  Those graphics should be in 15 second TV (2+ / 0-)
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    jjellin, sargoth

    spots during every college and pro football game, before the 6:00 network news, and before the 8:00 sit com/reality tv show/dumb shit entertainment show most Americans watch on every channel.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:56:36 AM PDT

  •  And you know what? (0+ / 0-)

    The Republicans will win. They'll run on the fact that they went against what Americans wanted. And Americans will vote them into office for it.

    I have little hope for us Americans. We are morons.

    •  You think the Democratic Party (0+ / 0-)

      can't capitalize on it when Republicans vote as a bloc against large public majorities but that this makes voters morons?  Do you think such a problem is related to the talk of deficits amidst such high unemployment?

      Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

      by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:05:13 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Bash Democrats much? (1+ / 0-)
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        Clearly, that is your intention in this thread.  Is Free Republic closed today?

        •  Criticizing campaign strategy (0+ / 0-)

          is bashing now?  I've never been to Free Republic.  Do they often suggest how Democrats could capitalize on unpopular things Republicans do? Consider that I want Democratic partisans (like the above commenter) to stop needlessly bashing voters (calling people morons is, unlike what I've done, bashing).  

          You seem to be opposed to any sort of criticism of any element of the Democratic Party.  Sorry, but I am a citizen, not a subject. The party was made for the people, not the other way around.

          Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

          by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:27:21 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  No, playing the part of DINO and trying (1+ / 0-)
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            to claim doing so is somehow a good thing is bashing.

            It appears to be your stock in trade; you should know what it is, even if you can't bring yourself to admit it in public.

            •  Good golly.... (0+ / 0-)

              David hasn't said one offensive thing.

              And while I may not agree with why some would like to see graphs of how Dems voted, I'd still like to see them -- just adds more information, and information isn't a bad thing.

            •  And here I thought I was complaining about (0+ / 0-)


              I don't think that word means what you think it means.

              Listen - lay off the personal attacks, the attacks on my motives (which you don't have access to), the name calling, and the demands that I join a conservative website.  That is not any way to argue - at least for someone who feels confident about their positions.  On this side of the spectrum, we value debate and dissent - we're not scare of it.  I'm not interested in having a pie fight with you.  But I'm not going to go away because of your attempts to bully me.  

              Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

              by David Kaib on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:43:10 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

        •  I didn't even understand (0+ / 0-)

          what David said. Well not the second sentence.

          Although I disagree with his first sentence anyway. Yes it does make voters morons to vote Republican. That's my point.

  •  Nice graphics. (2+ / 0-)
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    jjellin, ferg

    I agree with Darthstar, OFA should put together an ad right now with those graphics.  Only I would make the colors red and blue so there is NO MISTAKING who is the party of NO.

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 07:57:46 AM PDT

  •  David Brooks on wrong side too (1+ / 0-)
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    JC from IA

    If you see Brooks latest inane column today (sorry, no link), he's babbling about the 1820s and Americans supposedly quietly reevaluating their moral priorities because we've realized we've become "soft and decadent". According to The Master most Americans instinctively reject the tea party and OWS in longing for a conservative world view and traditional morals.

    Shorter Brooks: STFU you damn hippies and go away. We know what's best for you.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:13:14 AM PDT

  •  That's the problem with polls (2+ / 0-)
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    Laconic Lib, sargoth

    That it really depended on the type of questions asked.

    For example:
    Let's ask Joe  some questions:

    Are you in favor of money for more teachers?
    - Sure.

    Are you in favor of hiring more policemen?
    - Obviously.

    Are you in favor of the government giving you geothermal heat pump for free?  - Where can I sign?

    Would you like your pony to be brown or white?
    errr, Can I have both?

    Headline: American support government plans!

    However, the next question is:

    Do you approve the government raising the debt to pay for this?  
    Screeeeetch. Whoa buddy, do I look like a communist to you?

    It doesn't matter that the CBO stated that the jobs bill is practically deficit neutral over 10 years. The point is that money is going to be spent in the first year and for that the government need to raise the debt now (The CBO says 288 billion dollars).
    For many Americans this is big no-no.

    "One might almost call it poetic, if poetry weren't the last refuge of the bearded, cricket hating sodomite."

    by The Revenge of Shakshuka on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:26:03 AM PDT

    •  Are you sure about that? (1+ / 0-)
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      David Kaib

      I don't think that the debt ceiling is as big an issue as you think.

      "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

      by shmuelman on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 09:19:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The debt ceiling is only one part (0+ / 0-)

        The debt ceiling is only one part of the general concept of government borrowing.

        Many Americans (most?) project their personal  economic situation on the government.

        They believe that the government should manage it finances like a standard household and should "live within its means".

        Of course, This is  a very simplistic and erroneous way to look at things, but unfortunately it is well entrenched in the human psyche.

        So when regular Americans are struggling with increasing loads of personal debt,  they don't want the government to increase its own debt (which is our debt in  the end).

        No matter how many times you explain to them that borrowing now with the laughingly low rates on T-bill is practically a must, or that most of the US debt is internal while China is shaking in its boots, they still feel threatened.

        How big of a deal is it? I guess we shall have to ask the Democrats  who lost their seats in the house and senate in 2010.

        Or better yet, we can issue another poll.

        "One might almost call it poetic, if poetry weren't the last refuge of the bearded, cricket hating sodomite."

        by The Revenge of Shakshuka on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 11:28:17 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  republicans are always on the wrong side (1+ / 0-)
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    David Kaib

    the problem is that there isn't any consequences for them being on the wrong side.  If there are consequences, they never seem to last long.  That's why they think they can get away with it.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:33:35 AM PDT

  •  Well, they're after "The Whole Tamale" (1+ / 0-)
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  •  The bad thing is that (0+ / 0-)

    if you go to, you'll have a hard time even finding that poll.  All they talk about is how much everyone hates President Obama and how much trouble he's in for 2012.  No talk of the 75% of the people who pretty much like all aspects of his jobs plan.  I could've saved Pew some time and money and just told them that PRes Obama receives 90% negative press.  

    •  You forget that people are idiots. These (0+ / 0-)

      are the same people who want the government to keep its hands off Medicare! Obama doesn't tell people that the Republican Party--not 'partisanship,' not 'gridlock', not 'Congress'-- is the single greatest obstacle to peace and prosperity for the American people. He still blabbers about 'working together' to come up with 'solutions.' If Obama "receives 90% negative press" it's his own fault.

      If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

      by LongTom on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 09:06:59 AM PDT

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  •  Republicans know that issues mean nothing in (0+ / 0-)

    politics and have nothing to do with the outcome of elections. They know that most people are incapable of identifying their own self-interest, let alone figuring out who will carry that interest forward. They know that electoral politics, and most especially national electoral poliitcs, is all imaging, slogeneering, and marketing. And they are aided by the Democrats' refusal to accept this fundamental fact and engage them on the same battlefield.

    If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

    by LongTom on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 09:11:15 AM PDT

  •  Well, after digging I (0+ / 0-)

    did find a link to an article.  Funny thing is that the headline is that most people think that Obama's policies will fail.  Later in the article it talks very briefly about the fact that the American public supports the major parts of the Jobs Bill.  Given the economic state and the strong push by Dems to get a bill passed, seems like that would be the headline.  I too think his policies will fail only because the repubs will fail to approve them.  CNN is horrible.

  •  The question that wasn't asked... (0+ / 0-)

    "Even if it jeopardizes bipartisan collegiality in Congress?"
    No one would go for it in that case, because seeing John Boehner cry is too painful for the American Voter.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 09:24:12 AM PDT

  •  Wrong numbers reported here! (0+ / 0-)

    They're not weighted by income,wealth, or corporate personhood status, and so don't reflect our Representative Democracy.


  •  forget republicans voting against team limbaugh (0+ / 0-)

    until left challenges RW radio

    they've been instrumental cleaning moderates from the party but there is little hope getting any crossover as long as the TR machine can get tens of thousands of dittohead teabaggers screaming at them merely because team limbaugh calls them traitors by name.

    few republicans can fall out of lock step obstruction without serious consequence, and the main enforcer is limbaugh.

    occupy those stations and they, and some blue dogs, might start putting country before party. otherwise forget it.

    Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

    by certainot on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 10:04:27 AM PDT

  •  You know... (0+ / 0-)

    In a logical, rational world, these numbers lead to one conclusion:  Congressional Republicans are so horrendously out-of-touch with their constituents,  that every ballot handed out in 2012 will come with a can of tar and a feather pillow.  Every...single...Republican would hoisted from Congress by their own petards.  Their personal belongings would be returned to them via a third floor office window.  Any attempt to return to Capital Hill would result in a Trespass citation.

    But that won't happen, because "Obamma's a socialist muslim", or something...

  •  Ideology Trumps Reality.... (0+ / 0-)

    As Mitch McConnell said "my number one priority is to see that Obama only has one term".

    Country first?  Whatever happened to that?

  •  Love the Graphs (0+ / 0-)

    I love posts with circle charts.  They work for everyone, even if they aren't a good reader or haven't had much education.
    Also, charts are remembered in a different area of the brain than written information, and so while they reinforce the copy, they also are information in their own right.

  •  Yes. You're right. (0+ / 0-)

    Visual is stored differently.  I hope some one prints up a bunch of copies of that graph on wallet sized cards, with a space to check off if any Republicans voted yes.   Then hand them out and ask them how many they think the Senate Republicans will vote yes on.  Make a dollar bet if you can.  

    Democrats - We represent America!

    by phonegery on Fri Oct 21, 2011 at 08:44:25 AM PDT

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